Dan and Michael Get Back in the Saddle (with Jennifer Van Tiem) | Horses and the Anthropology of Riding
Equine obsession, Western mythologies, and why horses are better at reading you than you are.
Horse girls. German cowboys. Private equity bowling alleys. This week on People Stuff, we take on horses—not just as animals, but as cultural objects, status symbols, and surprisingly effective therapists.
Joined by medical anthropologist Jennifer Van Tiem, we explore how an eight-year-old’s horse obsession spirals into real estate searches, why the Western refuses to die (it just changes costumes), and what exactly is happening when a prey animal becomes your emotional support system.
Along the way:
- Barrel racing as unexpectedly egalitarian sport design
- The anthropology of hobbyist subcultures (including German Plains reenactors)
- Why horses don’t lie—and why that’s a problem for you
- Bowling alleys, private equity, and the collapse of third places
- Domestication, co-regulation, and who’s actually in control
Chapters
00:00 Intro
02:10 Fresh Hell: Political shoe rituals
08:45 Horse girls and equine obsession
22:30 Westerns, Germany, and Karl May
38:10 Fixing Bowling (and third places)
47:50 Why horses bond with humans
58:00 Outro
If you’ve ever wondered why horses inspire lifelong devotion—or how a genre about the frontier became a global fantasy—this episode has answers. Some more satisfying than others.
Remember: we’re anthropologists, and we know stuff about people.
That’s it for this week’s People Stuff — the show where two anthropologists try (and sometimes fail) to make sense of people.
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Credits
Produced by Gabe Bullard
Music by The Endless Bummer
Art by Siobhan Henegan
Marketing by Bryan Haut
Legal support by The Law Office of Matthew Shayefar, the one true business uncle.
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